Have you ever wrapped (or buried) yourself in luxurious white? There's something quite fabulous about big, bulky Ralph Lauren towels in solid white and I find thick-as-tablecloth high-grade blinding white bedsheets quite decadent. I also enjoy my timeless white linen suit during the summer months because it's the only time I get to wear it! However, with Labor Day upon us, they say white will soon be out of season.
Basic Black is de rigueur for most of us! And yes, once you go black you never go back! Yet, I know there will be some brothas who'll be disappointed that they did not receive that invitation to this summer's White Party. I also know some of us don't necessarily adhere to antiquated fashion or social contricts and there are such things as open invitations.
Personally, my white linen suit is as close as I've ever gotten to that kind of party but I must admit that those open invitations can sometimes look most intriguing!
Just not sure I know where this is going or where its been! I have an idea, but for the first time in a long while I'm afraid to share.
Posted by: Greg | September 03, 2011 at 10:06 PM
@Greg, where it's been is anyone's guess but you can take it anywhere you wanna!
Posted by: Corey | September 03, 2011 at 10:58 PM
well I tried!
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 12:38 PM
This SO looks like it's going to be a one-way convo, but that's okay - THANK YOU as usual! But what did you TRY, chile?
Posted by: Corey | September 04, 2011 at 12:52 PM
I posted my comment and it was rejected? Admittedly it was rather long but it was important, i think!
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 01:24 PM
It was originally a comment I saw posted on another site. I copied and pasted it here. It had to do with the objectification and fetishization of black men in the porn industry and how black sgl men need to reserve their sexuality for themselves. Also, there was quite a poignant quote from Sula about Black men loving Black men as only Black men can!
Shall I post it again?
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 01:39 PM
@Greg, yes - if you don't mind! If you think it will be rejected again, break it up into increments. If this is what you were "afraid" to share it - it must REALLY BE SOMETHING!
Posted by: Corey | September 04, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Bruthas, please listen up! What you have is very special. Call it sex appeal, senuality, erotic, exotic erotica, etc. We are by nature a very sensuous people. It is special and therefore should be reserved for those who deserve it the most ourselves. In this post of videos, 90% of the videos are of us with white dudes. Check it out, these dudes fetishize you and fantasize about you. They objectify you. You are a bubble butt or big dick for them and nothing else. But do not take you seriously. You have no opinions or concerns that they are obliged to acknowledge & respect. You, my sweet nubian bruthas are the envy of the world. In Toni Morrison's Sula: "White men love you. They spend so much time worrying about your penis, they forget their own...." They want to live your life minus the consequences and the negatives of being a black man. So, the closest to being you is having sex with you. They become you by injection. A writer once said 'everybody wants to sing my blues but nobody wants to live my blues." And this is the truth, they copy our art, fashion, speech and even our Africanisms, that if you are of a certain age, you know that once upon a time those Africanisms were looked down upon even by our own people. Now, white folds celebrate them.
Bruthas, please stop eating white dudes assholes, stop sucking they dicks, stop swallowing their seeds, stop letting white men penetrate you. These same white dudes if they were in a position to give you a job or a promotion, would not! Yet, they will get naked with you and have sex. And peep this, they will rarely even admit to themselves or their friends they had you, especially the darker hued among us. They may sanitize the experience by saying well he's a mulatto, or he's half Irish, etc.
Sex is the ultimate gift of appreciation of another individuals beauty. And if we truly find each other beautiful then lets give these gifts and reserve them for each other and nobody else.a OK, so you find a particular white dude attractive even sexy. Leave it there! We have our own special baggage and need very much to deal with that before going off and giving ourselves to white dudes. And we need to deal with our baggage with each other minus the input of whites.
My bruthas, deal with and take other bruthas beauty seriously and show another brutha how beautiful he is.
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 01:55 PM
According to Sula; "Nothing in the world loves a black man more than another black man...."
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 01:56 PM
@Greg, WHY were you AFRAID OF THIS .. afraid to put it HERE on this thread? I'm wondering if the reticence is akin to what I felt about doing the post AT ALL? But then I thought "if they don't know my stance by now they never will." After I told you to go ahead and try posting again, I had to go do some work in the kitchen. When I came back upstairs, hubby was looking on the blog and said "UH HUH! Greg got your ass together puttin' that white boy shit on your blog." So, as for me and my house .....well, you know the rest and so it goes!
I guess it's really not that important to know how much you copied from that other site and pasted here or not. At the expense of offending SOMEbody, I agree with it 99%. However, I will say that I'm not going to rag on those who're in interracial relationships nor judge them - ANYMORE! Love ... IF IT'S LOVE ... is where you find it! The trouble is ... like your comment above so indicates ... it very rarely has ANYTHING to do with love!
In the end, that one percent agrees with the "so you find a particular white dude attractive even sexy. Leave it there!" part of your comment. Admittedly, it's that one percent of me that ALLOWED me to do the post in the beginning!
But can we EVER get away from objectifying and fetishizing others and OURSELVES while we're at it? I see very clearly that someone looking on could certainly say that I was doing the same thing here with the "open invitation" but I say I DON'T THINK SO!
Posted by: Corey | September 04, 2011 at 03:35 PM
Agreed I don't thing you r either and if so then so what. With us it's allowed cause it comes from a place of love 4 our people & genuine mutual admiration. It's not a power trip with us.
Admittedly I do objectify other bruthas but I can do it cause I love bruthas so much . There's a lot of um-acknowledged & in-treated trauma (remember) among us & part of us signing on to love each other is to deal with that trauma & damage. Sometimes all a black dude wants is to be held by another brutha. I can't tell u how many of my booty calls were to go to a brothas house at 2 AM & just lay there and hold him
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Actually the reticence was akin to the statement not being well received at other sites. So I just figured there was some sort of collective outrage against the statement. Any body who claims to know me well, knows this is my feeling. I deal with whiter all day at work & now because of gentrification must share living space with them so there is no escape except in the narrow, safe, warm & welcoming confines of my bed! All my buddies in the life & my ex's know that I don't cross the color line in matters of the flesh & love
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 06:29 PM
"I can't tell u how many of my booty calls were to go to a brothas house at 2 AM & just lay there and hold him" says Greg!
OH! MY BROTHER! How well I can relate! Thank you for pointing out that a 2AM "booty call" most often has LESS to do with booty than it does with just wanting COMPANY and loneliness and longing and affairs of the heart! You also mentioned that "untreated trauma" and yes, there is NOBODY ELSE that will UNDERSTAND IT like another brotha but please don't let me get started because you are right - AGAIN! These comments are NOT received well among us especially when so many of us are trying to do and be something and somebody else always somewhere else! They're not received well among us and not received well from the outside because some people HATE HEARING THE TRUTH and always want to make it seem like we're speaking something HATEFUL! And the thing is we CAN SPEAK IT because we LOVE US WITHOUT HAVING TO HATE ANYONE ELSE - their attractions, decisions or whatever!
On the other hand, Greg, it ain't like there's so many folks reading this!
Posted by: Corey | September 04, 2011 at 07:04 PM
I don't agree, I think there are more people reading this than you really know, they just aren't letting YOU know that they are reading this.
But Thanks for co-signing. I mean its just not about hate at all. Its just the way I am. Its another brutha or nobody and I've already been there. When I lived in the Middle East, it just wasn't happening for me. I had to wait to get to the UK to get laid. My co-workers wondered why when I had long weekends off I would head to the UK or Paris.
Part of this stance has to do with my father believe it or not. My dad was a real 'race man.' He waited until after I had gotten through the first half of my freshman year to have the 'sex talk' with me and part of the talk went like this; "I don't care who you bring home, a girl or a dude, just don't bring no white chick or a white dude in my house!!! I'm black and your mother is black and thats what you need to bring home. Do you good brutha, just don't bring whitey in my house, understand?"
So there you have it. Little did he know and I genuinely believe he thought I was innocent (he actually told me so) at the time, but I was carrying on with an upperclassman, a dude who was in the NOI. So you can imagine, the clandestine meetings, sneaking around, whispering, notes in code, phone calls in code, etc. This brutha was so in denial, so on the DL that our love making would be preceeded by the statement; "we not supposed to be doing this Greg, its an experiment, the Koran speaks against it cause it don't produce nothing!" But, time and time again we would do it. If we happened to cross paths on the quad, guaranteed, I was getting some that night, didn't even have to ask. Our pillow talk included what was good about our people as well as what was wrong. It also included why we should be separate. It was tinged with a bit of paranoia and conspiracy which, I can honestly say made sense but anyway this is the reason I'm where I am today. Yes, I'd rather be lonely or use my hand (and I do) than cross that line! And of the bruthas that I've been with, they feel the same way, at least most of them do.
Yes, I do objectify my bruthas, I purposefully walk up and down "Little Africa" here in Harlem just to admire and cruise the pretty, big booty Senegalese and Cote d'Ivoirean men 'cause thats what I fantasize about. But again, its ok if I do it cause deep down inside, I am them and it comes from such a different place. I objectify them with a purpose, to get closer to them not just lustily but also culturally. When I'm out in Brooklyn in Ft. Green, Bed-Stuy and Carroll Gardens I cruise the beautiful West Indian dudes for the same reason. When I'm in Paris, I cruise the Black Parisian bruthas in the 18th Arrondisment for the same reason & also to practice my french.
And you know what Corey? I'm not mad a bloods who deal with white dudes, not at all! If thats what you need then get it! I know for some bruthas its a means to an end. They wouldn't be able to have that brownstone or townhouse or nice condo on the 32nd floor without partnering with a white dude. But me, I believe I could have those things with a brutha, its just gonna take some time to find me a kool brutha who can hang like that. And trust me, some of those bruthas living with white dudes, when they go out to walk the dog in the park at midnight, they looking for a black dude like me who can really set they soul on fire! Trust me, been there done that! I know of what I speaks!
One of these days when I have enough money or if I can get a job there I'll go to the emirates and cruise the pretty dark complected bruthas there. I'm told they are hungry for interaction with African-Americans cause they see so few of us in person. And if I ever get my hand on one of those kaftan wearing dudes, well....
Posted by: Greg | September 04, 2011 at 07:59 PM
Excuse me if it seems that I'm having a Celie moment, but are you saying that the "White Party" isn't where people dress up in white with no draws and jam to house music?
Posted by: Curious | September 05, 2011 at 05:03 AM
Yeah baby I suppose it can be that too!
Posted by: Greg | September 05, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Intriguing conversation!
Posted by: Thomas | September 06, 2011 at 09:51 AM